=============== Note 1 ================= Board: NEWS BB Topic: WHITE HOUSE/CONGRESS Subject: KISS MY ARSE MR PREZ To: ALL Date: 05/04 From: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION Time: 10:21 PM According to the May 3 New York Times President Zedillo of Mexico announced: "...when I'm told that some people in the U.S. government would like to see their agents armed in Mexico, I say no! The answer is no! No further discussion! Let's look for ways in which those people can be well protected in Mexico, but we simply will not allow that. And that's that." Little known to the American public, our DEA agents in Mexico are FORBIDDEN from carrying firearms while in Mexico. The Mexican government, which is rumored to be both murderous and corrupt, doesn't like this "infringement" on its sovereignty. It needs to maintain the illusion that it is in charge when in fact the Mexican ruling party, PRI, is owned and operated by Wall Street. In order to continue fooling the Mexican People it kneels before Wall Street PRIVATELY while very PUBLICLY insulting President Clinton with this statement just weeks after President Clinton re-certified Mexico as "co-operating" in the war on drugs. Zedillo wants American agents to risk their lives UNARMED in the teeth of the worst scourge of narco-terrorism in the world today even after President Clinton bent over backwards on the drug issue, not to mention the big financial bailout. Sounds like Zedillo is responding to the dollars of the dealers. He's sure not listening to reason, he's sure not acting in common decency, and he won't even allow us to polygraph his agents. Zedillo has urinated on the grave of American drug agent Enrique Camerena who while unarmed was tortured to death in Mexico. And now he has told our President to kiss his a$$. And guess what? Clinton is gonna do it! =============== Reply 1 of Note 1 ================= Board: NEWS BB Topic: WHITE HOUSE/CONGRESS Subject: KISS MY ARSE MR PREZ To: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION Date: 05/05 From: KRGK40A CHARLES WALSH Time: 4:57 PM Outside of your reasonable question about drug agents being armed your post is pretty silly. There is corruption in Mexico but they are taking steps to fight it. They just recently fired around a thousand of their cops. What is your evidence for saying the PRI is owned and operated by Wall Street? Do you really think that taking an arrogant, jingoistic attitude is going to solve any of the problems? The days of the U.S. as the bully on the block are thankfully, long gone. ctw =============== Reply 2 of Note 1 ================= Board: NEWS BB Topic: WHITE HOUSE/CONGRESS Subject: KISS MY ARSE MR PREZ To: KRGK40A CHARLES WALSH Date: 05/06 From: GSBK29A DOUGLAS DEMARET Time: 11:01 AM Mexico does painfully little to combat drugs. Further, they do nothing at their own borders to stem the tide of illegal immigration to this country. Now, they have the nerve to be critical of OUR laws that allow deportation and forbid illegals from gaining legal status for 10 years. All the while they cry out for their own solidarity, which they should, but fail to recognise that the U.S. has the same right to run our immigration laws as we see fit. And in our best interests, not Mexicos. So, with that in mind, we are about to see Clinton do a little of his usual ass kissing down there. =============== Reply 3 of Note 1 ================= Board: NEWS BB Topic: WHITE HOUSE/CONGRESS Subject: KISS MY ARSE MR PREZ To: GSBK29A DOUGLAS DEMARET Date: 05/06 From: KRGK40A CHARLES WALSH Time: 12:59 PM As usual, you use the right wing absolute. Mexico does "nothing" about illegal aliens. Or they do "painfully little" about drugs. The truth is that for years, the U.S. was encouraging "illegals" to enter the U.S. to do farm labor. Governor Pete Wilson of Calif as a U.S. Senator was blocking legislation to slow it down. And I already mentioned how Mexico fired over a 1000 police and is training a new drug fighting force. But a more important question is why is there a drug problem? What about the demand from U.S. drug users? Isn't it the demand that is driving the entire business? Of course it is. Get honest, Demaret, and just admit this is another chance for you to bash Clinton which is the only "policy agenda" of the right wing anyway. ctw =============== Reply 4 of Note 1 ================= Board: NEWS BB Topic: WHITE HOUSE/CONGRESS Subject: KISS MY ARSE MR PREZ To: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION Date: 05/06 From: ZHLG17A PHIL ANDERSON Time: 8:48 PM Should Mexican police be able to pursue suspected drug traffickers into the US? Undercover? While armed? Phil Anderson ("When can I go into the supermarket and buy what I need with my good looks?"-Allen Ginsberg) =============== Reply 5 of Note 1 ================= Board: NEWS BB Topic: WHITE HOUSE/CONGRESS Subject: KISS MY ARSE MR PREZ To: KRGK40A CHARLES WALSH Date: 05/06 From: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION Time: 10:20 PM Sure there is corruption in Mexico but you've been misled if you think they are taking steps to fight it. Just last week they announced they will no longer allow outside observers at July's elections and they are preventing any foreign money from being used to monitor this election. So what they fired a thousand cops. There are TENS of thousands of corrupt cops and even the military is on the take as proved by the arrest of the top general in charge of the anti-drug effort. The money is from drugs. There is no profit in decency. They take investment income and loans from us, (which they liberally steal,) but the big money is from drugs. The former Presidents brother had a Swiss account with tens of millions of what he claims to be legitimate dollars, but hey there's a Bridge in Brooklyn that he's peddling too. Don't buy ANY of it. The PRI is a Kleptocracy from top to bottom and we are fools for allowing them to get away with it. =============== Reply 6 of Note 1 ================= Board: NEWS BB Topic: WHITE HOUSE/CONGRESS Subject: KISS MY ARSE MR PREZ To: ZHLG17A PHIL ANDERSON Date: 05/06 From: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION Time: 10:26 PM According to the U.S. Supreme Court the Mexicans CAN send its agents into America in pursuit of trafficers. This comes from a decision a few years ago in a case that arose from the Camerena murder. WE sent agents into Mexico to kidnap a Mexican doctor who was suspected in the death. He was later acquited but his case reached the Court in that he claimed there was no jurisdiction to prosecute him since he had been kidnapped across a border. Very unpopular in Mexico and I bet they'd love the chance to turn the tables. The Court held that such cross border kidnappings are legal. =============== Reply 7 of Note 1 ================= Board: NEWS BB Topic: WHITE HOUSE/CONGRESS Subject: KISS MY ARSE MR PREZ To: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION Date: 05/07 From: KRGK40A CHARLES WALSH Time: 11:14 AM I agree that there is corruption. I also believe there are good decent, honest people in the government of Mexico as well. If we are to work with those good people for the betterment of Mexico and good relations with them, we have to work with the government they elect. That's the way it is when working within legal frameworks. You take the good with the bad and work with what you get. ctw =============== Reply 8 of Note 1 ================= Board: NEWS BB Topic: WHITE HOUSE/CONGRESS Subject: KISS MY ARSE MR PREZ To: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION Date: 05/08 From: ZHLG17A PHIL ANDERSON Time: 0:14 AM Rick, The Supreme Court said that the fact that US cops had pursued/kidnapped the suspect in Mexico did not divest US courts of jurisdiction over the suspect's alleged offense. How on earth do you twist that to mean that the Supreme Court has ruled that Mexican cops have a right to carry concealed weapons into the US? How did the case address powers of Mexican cops in any way, shape, or form? Phil Anderson ("When can I go into the supermarket and buy what I need with my good looks?"-Allen Ginsberg) =============== Reply 9 of Note 1 ================= Board: NEWS BB Topic: WHITE HOUSE/CONGRESS Subject: KISS MY ARSE MR PREZ To: KRGK40A CHARLES WALSH Date: 05/08 From: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION Time: 0:15 AM Yes! There are many good, decent, honest People in the Mexican government, and they seem to get there every time there is a fair election. They are the elected members of the National Action Party and the Party of Democratic Revolution. Because they don't have BIG power (yet) they can reasonably be trusted. The Institutional Revolutionary Party (PRI) is the one with all the kleptocrats. The kleptocrats do not work within legal frameworks, even by Mexican standards. They steal and murder and traffic in coke and abuse the People, but other than that... =============== Reply 10 of Note 1 ================= Board: NEWS BB Topic: WHITE HOUSE/CONGRESS Subject: KISS MY ARSE MR PREZ To: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION Date: 05/08 From: KRGK40A CHARLES WALSH Time: 10:40 AM The question comes down to the old familiar, "Do you work within the system or outside it?" Since the PRI is in power the US has no choice but to deal with them. Is it better to shun all treaties like NAFTA or to participate in them and thereby help the economic conditions in Mexico? Is Sedillo corrupt? How do the majority of the Mexican people? Do they want respect from the US and good relations or do they want the PRI thrown out? Clinton is not ass kissing. He's trying to further reforms by entering into mutually beneficial deals with Mexico. What would you have him do? ctw =============== Reply 11 of Note 1 ================= Board: NEWS BB Topic: WHITE HOUSE/CONGRESS Subject: KISS MY ARSE MR PREZ To: ZHLG17A PHIL ANDERSON Date: 05/08 From: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION Time: 11:46 PM The court said the international border is permeable to law enforcement. What goes one way must go the other way as well. The case is precedent setting. Future similar cases will be decided by its dictates, which are, quite simply, that law enforcement of Country A can pass into Country B and take an accused criminal for trial to Country A. A= any country that pursues an alleged criminal into country B= any country that has foreign law enforcement on its soil. There was a principle established as well as a precedent. The Solicitor General of Mexico may one day argue a case before the U.S. Supreme Court on this very point. What's to prevent them from crossing over here and snatching someone they want to prosecute? They'll argue in Federal Court claiming its their right to do so. Yet another way to chip away at our Sovereignty. =============== Reply 12 of Note 1 ================= Board: NEWS BB Topic: WHITE HOUSE/CONGRESS Subject: KISS MY ARSE MR PREZ To: KRGK40A CHARLES WALSH Date: 05/08 From: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION Time: 11:54 PM The only mutually beneficial deals are those that mutually benefit the wealthy of both countries. The little folk in both places get shafted. America worked outside the system in many places around the world to bring down governments not to our liking, but since when is murderous kleptocracy to our liking? I though we Americans were supposed to bring something better to the world. Export democracy! So how come its just more of the same in Latin America? With the fall of communism we lost the only rational reason to allow authoritarian regimes in our hemisphere. But they're still there, sugar coated by establishment propaganda. People are still being abused but that was supposed to stop, remember? Remember the cold war promises of what was supposed to happen FOR the People who then suffered under dictatorships when communism finally fell? I guarantee you there weren't any promises that the entrenched ruling classes would get even richer and more powerful. The People suffered so they could one day be Liberated and yet every where today they remain in chains. Just another example of the decline and fall of Western Civ. =============== Reply 13 of Note 1 ================= Board: NEWS BB Topic: WHITE HOUSE/CONGRESS Subject: KISS MY ARSE MR PREZ To: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION Date: 05/09 From: KRGK40A CHARLES WALSH Time: 10:58 AM See that's where you and I part ways. At some point you have to stop manning the towers yelling about the decline of western civilization and work with what is there. And when you do start working, things are usually not so black and white as you claim. ctw =============== Reply 14 of Note 1 ================= Board: NEWS BB Topic: WHITE HOUSE/CONGRESS Subject: KISS MY ARSE MR PREZ To: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION Date: 05/09 From: ZHLG17A PHIL ANDERSON Time: 7:39 PM Re: "The court said the international border is permeable to law enforcement. What goes one way must go the other way as well." Why? The Supremes merely decided that someone who committed a crime in the US, and was brought back to the US by "unusual" means (to be politically correct about it), could nonetheless be tried by US courts. How can you possibly extend that to mean that we won't mind armed foreigners crossing our borders so long as they call themselves cops? Phil Anderson ("When can I go into the supermarket and buy what I need with my good looks?"-Allen Ginsberg) =============== Reply 15 of Note 1 ================= Board: NEWS BB Topic: WHITE HOUSE/CONGRESS Subject: KISS MY ARSE MR PREZ To: KRGK40A CHARLES WALSH Date: 05/09 From: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION Time: 11:35 PM History will show that the current gluttony of greed is the equivalent of rats deserting a sinking ship. Those with access to the best information are grabbing all they can to feather their nests so that when it all comes down they will not suffer. They've spent the past 16 years building themselves (at taxpayer expense) a shining city on the hill and they have lately pulled up the drawbridge and burned the welcome mat. That leaves the rest of us, but We the People still possess the ultimate life raft: REVOLUTION. There is nothing left to work with save the Declaration of Independence. The ruling class has looted everything else. =============== Reply 16 of Note 1 ================= Board: NEWS BB Topic: WHITE HOUSE/CONGRESS Subject: KISS MY ARSE MR PREZ To: ZHLG17A PHIL ANDERSON Date: 05/09 From: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION Time: 11:35 PM You're missing a few salient facts of the case: The crime of murder was committed in Mexico by Mexicans. The victim was an undercover (and unarmed) DEA agent. The U.S. Department of "Justice" arranged the kidnapping of the suspect from Mexico to the U.S. What the Supreme Court approved of was the prosecution of a foreign suspect for a crime that occured in a foreign land. In doing so, the Court said that the Constitution EXTENDS across borders. If that's not an emanation of a penumbra, the Warren Court is a figment of historical imagination. =============== Reply 17 of Note 1 ================= Board: NEWS BB Topic: WHITE HOUSE/CONGRESS Subject: KISS MY ARSE MR PREZ To: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION Date: 05/11 From: ZHLG17A PHIL ANDERSON Time: 11:06 PM U.S. law makes it a crime to kill an American, and particularly an American cop, anywhere in the world. The Supremes said that law was within the bounds of the Constitution. Now how you extend from that to the conclusion that Mexican cops can carry concealed weapons in the US still escapes me. Sorry. Phil Anderson ("When can I go into the supermarket and buy what I need with my good looks?"-Allen Ginsberg) =============== Reply 18 of Note 1 ================= Board: NEWS BB Topic: WHITE HOUSE/CONGRESS Subject: KISS MY ARSE MR PREZ To: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION Date: 05/12 From: KRGK40A CHARLES WALSH Time: 9:47 PM Hmmmm...armed insurrection? In the name of the people? Seems like I've heard of this before... ctw =============== Reply 19 of Note 1 ================= Board: NEWS BB Topic: WHITE HOUSE/CONGRESS Subject: KISS MY ARSE MR PREZ To: ZHLG17A PHIL ANDERSON Date: 05/13 From: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION Time: 10:02 PM U.S. law doesn't apply in foreign countries unless that government agrees. The Mexican government under Salinas most emphatically opposed this as does Zedillo with his pronouncement on weapons. Quid pro quo. If we can do it, against their wishes, then they can do it against ours. Wait till the Revolution hits in Mexico and the new Government sends its agents here to collect the various aiders and abetters of the corrupt, murderous regime, both Mexican and American. =============== Reply 20 of Note 1 ================= Board: NEWS BB Topic: WHITE HOUSE/CONGRESS Subject: KISS MY ARSE MR PREZ To: KRGK40A CHARLES WALSH Date: 05/13 From: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION Time: 10:29 PM Yeah, what you heard of began on April 19, 1775 and was formalized on July 4, 1776. My teachers told me this was a real good thing. I agree. Do you? =============== Reply 21 of Note 1 ================= Board: NEWS BB Topic: WHITE HOUSE/CONGRESS Subject: KISS MY ARSE MR PREZ To: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION Date: 05/14 From: KRGK40A CHARLES WALSH Time: 9:01 AM I think the Declaration of Independence is great. I don't think armed insurrection in the name of the people is what is called for today. Nor does it have one chance in a million of succeeding. ctw =============== Reply 22 of Note 1 ================= Board: NEWS BB Topic: WHITE HOUSE/CONGRESS Subject: KISS MY ARSE MR PREZ To: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION Date: 05/14 From: ZHLG17A PHIL ANDERSON Time: 8:48 PM US law prohibits killing Americans, wherever they may be. Phil Anderson ("Hold on to your skirts, ladies. We're going through Hell."-Allen Ginsberg) =============== Reply 23 of Note 1 ================= Board: NEWS BB Topic: WHITE HOUSE/CONGRESS Subject: KISS MY ARSE MR PREZ To: KRGK40A CHARLES WALSH Date: 05/14 From: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION Time: 8:48 PM Just wait till the economy collapses and the foreign banks start foreclosing on our properties. You'll get to the barricades fast enough. =============== Reply 24 of Note 1 ================= Board: NEWS BB Topic: WHITE HOUSE/CONGRESS Subject: KISS MY ARSE MR PREZ To: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION Date: 05/14 From: KRGK40A CHARLES WALSH Time: 10:15 PM I see. And when will this economic collapse happen? ctw =============== Reply 25 of Note 1 ================= Board: NEWS BB Topic: WHITE HOUSE/CONGRESS Subject: KISS MY ARSE MR PREZ To: ZHLG17A PHIL ANDERSON Date: 05/15 From: YFKT44A STEVE EPPERSON Time: 0:02 AM "US law prohibits killing Americans wherever they maybe". That may be true Phil, but some deserve it- it happens-and will continue. =============== Reply 26 of Note 1 ================= Board: NEWS BB Topic: WHITE HOUSE/CONGRESS Subject: KISS MY ARSE MR PREZ To: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION Date: 05/15 From: DJPE65A BEVERLY SPECHT Time: 1:30 PM Bill Clinton certainly wouldn't want to step on the sanctity of Mexican sovereignty. He doesn't give a flying flip about OUR national sovereignty as he sells out our country to the Communist Chinese and the UN, but we certainly don't want to ruffle the feathers of our Mexican neighbors, now do we? Can you say Manchurian Candidate? The modern day version of Machiavelli's "Prince"... that's our Bill. And the Soccer Mom's just love him. IMHO, Bev =============== Reply 27 of Note 1 ================= Board: NEWS BB Topic: WHITE HOUSE/CONGRESS Subject: KISS MY ARSE MR PREZ To: ZHLG17A PHIL ANDERSON Date: 05/15 From: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION Time: 9:33 PM True, U.S. law prohibits killing of Americans everywhere. Also true, there is no statute of limitations for murder. So how come the U.S. government doesn't go after Chinese Communists for their murder of U.S. Army Captain John Birch in 1945? =============== Reply 28 of Note 1 ================= Board: NEWS BB Topic: WHITE HOUSE/CONGRESS Subject: KISS MY ARSE MR PREZ To: DJPE65A BEVERLY SPECHT Date: 05/15 From: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION Time: 10:48 PM I DID say "Manchurian Candidate," Bev. Back on April 7, '97 at 3:27 AM. It was then my subject "By His Cajones!" was posted in the In the News Topic. I was going to refer you to it but when I went back to check the date I found it had "disappeared." Backdate it yourself. My other writings are still there but this one is gone. I wonder why? This has never happened to me before. WHY would Prodigy finally censor one of my writings after more than two years on the board? It must have to do with the subject matter. In this posting I speculated that our President had been so thoroughly compromised by the Chinese government via illegal contributions that they had him by his CAJONES. (This is the word the Secretary of State uses for "balls.") Beijing could provide investigators with PROOF of Clinton's felonious activity and bring down his Presidency if he didn't co-operate with China on geo-political matters. I called it the Dragon under Lincoln's Bed. I drew a parallel to former Australian Prime Minister Harold Holt who "disappeared" without a trace while swimming in 1967. It was credibly believed at the time that this man was an agent for China whose cover was blown and so was spirited out of the country with the aid of Red Army scuba divers and a trusty submarine. Now I find my posting gone POOF! down the old memory hole. Should I be concerned or am I paranoid? Will I go poof too? Will I join the ranks of the "disappeared?" (Hey! I'm not even from Latin America!) Did someone cause Prodigy to make the record poof, and if so, who? Keep an eye out for me, please, Bev. If you don't hear from me for awhile DON'T alert the authorities. DO alert the public. Where is Richard Condom when you need him? I'll write a note on this later, probably under this title: CENSOR THIS ! PRODIGY =============== Reply 29 of Note 1 ================= Board: NEWS BB Topic: WHITE HOUSE/CONGRESS Subject: KISS MY ARSE MR PREZ To: YFKT44A STEVE EPPERSON Date: 05/16 From: ZHLG17A PHIL ANDERSON Time: 7:46 PM Steve, I have no particular disagreement with your assertion, but it really doesn't tie in to my previous point to Mr Gombas. Phil Anderson ("Hold on to your skirts, ladies. We're going through Hell."-Allen Ginsberg) =============== Reply 30 of Note 1 ================= Board: NEWS BB Topic: WHITE HOUSE/CONGRESS Subject: KISS MY ARSE MR PREZ To: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION Date: 05/16 From: ZHLG17A PHIL ANDERSON Time: 7:46 PM Dunno. Got any idea where those murderers are? Or if they are still alive? Or would prefer to just kill some ChiComs at random? Is Robert Welch your hero? Phil Anderson ("Hold on to your skirts, ladies. We're going through Hell."-Allen Ginsberg) =============== Reply 31 of Note 1 ================= Board: NEWS BB Topic: WHITE HOUSE/CONGRESS Subject: KISS MY ARSE MR PREZ To: ZHLG17A PHIL ANDERSON Date: 05/16 From: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION Time: 10:19 PM Didja see Raquel Welch on Seinfeld last night? Rick (I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by television.) =============== Reply 32 of Note 1 ================= Board: NEWS BB Topic: WHITE HOUSE/CONGRESS Subject: KISS MY ARSE MR PREZ To: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION Date: 05/18 From: ZHLG17A PHIL ANDERSON Time: 9:25 PM Sorry, Rick, but I rarely watch Seinfeld. Phil Anderson ("Hold on to your skirts, ladies. We're going through Hell. But first we gotta watch Third Rock"-Allen Ginsberg) =============== Reply 33 of Note 1 ================= Board: NEWS BB Topic: WHITE HOUSE/CONGRESS Subject: KISS MY ARSE MR PREZ To: KRGK40A CHARLES WALSH Date: 05/06 From: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION Time: 10:20 PM Sure there is corruption in Mexico but you've been misled if you think they are taking steps to fight it. Just last week they announced they will no longer allow outside observers at July's elections and they are preventing any foreign money from being used to monitor this election. So what they fired a thousand cops. There are TENS of thousands of corrupt cops and even the military is on the take as proved by the arrest of the top general in charge of the anti-drug effort. The money is from drugs. There is no profit in decency. They take investment income and loans from us, (which they liberally steal,) but the big money is from drugs. The former Presidents brother had a Swiss account with tens of millions of what he claims to be legitimate dollars, but hey there's a Bridge in Brooklyn that he's peddling too. Don't buy ANY of it. The PRI is a Kleptocracy from top to bottom and we are fools for allowing them to get away with it. =============== Reply 34 of Note 1 ================= Board: NEWS BB Topic: WHITE HOUSE/CONGRESS Subject: KISS MY ARSE MR PREZ To: ZHLG17A PHIL ANDERSON Date: 05/06 From: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION Time: 10:26 PM According to the U.S. Supreme Court the Mexicans CAN send its agents into America in pursuit of trafficers. This comes from a decision a few years ago in a case that arose from the Camerena murder. WE sent agents into Mexico to kidnap a Mexican doctor who was suspected in the death. He was later acquited but his case reached the Court in that he claimed there was no jurisdiction to prosecute him since he had been kidnapped across a border. Very unpopular in Mexico and I bet they'd love the chance to turn the tables. The Court held that such cross border kidnappings are legal. =============== Reply 35 of Note 1 ================= Board: NEWS BB Topic: WHITE HOUSE/CONGRESS Subject: KISS MY ARSE MR PREZ To: KRGK40A CHARLES WALSH Date: 05/08 From: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION Time: 0:15 AM Yes! There are many good, decent, honest People in the Mexican government, and they seem to get there every time there is a fair election. They are the elected members of the National Action Party and the Party of Democratic Revolution. Because they don't have BIG power (yet) they can reasonably be trusted. The Institutional Revolutionary Party (PRI) is the one with all the kleptocrats. The kleptocrats do not work within legal frameworks, even by Mexican standards. They steal and murder and traffic in coke and abuse the People, but other than that... =============== Reply 36 of Note 1 ================= Board: NEWS BB Topic: WHITE HOUSE/CONGRESS Subject: KISS MY ARSE MR PREZ To: ZHLG17A PHIL ANDERSON Date: 05/08 From: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION Time: 11:46 PM The court said the international border is permeable to law enforcement. What goes one way must go the other way as well. The case is precedent setting. Future similar cases will be decided by its dictates, which are, quite simply, that law enforcement of Country A can pass into Country B and take an accused criminal for trial to Country A. A= any country that pursues an alleged criminal into country B= any country that has foreign law enforcement on its soil. There was a principle established as well as a precedent. The Solicitor General of Mexico may one day argue a case before the U.S. Supreme Court on this very point. What's to prevent them from crossing over here and snatching someone they want to prosecute? They'll argue in Federal Court claiming its their right to do so. Yet another way to chip away at our Sovereignty. =============== Reply 37 of Note 1 ================= Board: NEWS BB Topic: WHITE HOUSE/CONGRESS Subject: KISS MY ARSE MR PREZ To: KRGK40A CHARLES WALSH Date: 05/08 From: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION Time: 11:54 PM The only mutually beneficial deals are those that mutually benefit the wealthy of both countries. The little folk in both places get shafted. America worked outside the system in many places around the world to bring down governments not to our liking, but since when is murderous kleptocracy to our liking? I though we Americans were supposed to bring something better to the world. Export democracy! So how come its just more of the same in Latin America? With the fall of communism we lost the only rational reason to allow authoritarian regimes in our hemisphere. But they're still there, sugar coated by establishment propaganda. People are still being abused but that was supposed to stop, remember? Remember the cold war promises of what was supposed to happen FOR the People who then suffered under dictatorships when communism finally fell? I guarantee you there weren't any promises that the entrenched ruling classes would get even richer and more powerful. The People suffered so they could one day be Liberated and yet every where today they remain in chains. Just another example of the decline and fall of Western Civ. =============== Reply 38 of Note 1 ================= Board: NEWS BB Topic: WHITE HOUSE/CONGRESS Subject: KISS MY ARSE MR PREZ To: KRGK40A CHARLES WALSH Date: 05/09 From: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION Time: 11:35 PM History will show that the current gluttony of greed is the equivalent of rats deserting a sinking ship. Those with access to the best information are grabbing all they can to feather their nests so that when it all comes down they will not suffer. They've spent the past 16 years building themselves (at taxpayer expense) a shining city on the hill and they have lately pulled up the drawbridge and burned the welcome mat. That leaves the rest of us, but We the People still possess the ultimate life raft: REVOLUTION. There is nothing left to work with save the Declaration of Independence. The ruling class has looted everything else. =============== Reply 39 of Note 1 ================= Board: NEWS BB Topic: WHITE HOUSE/CONGRESS Subject: KISS MY ARSE MR PREZ To: ZHLG17A PHIL ANDERSON Date: 05/09 From: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION Time: 11:35 PM You're missing a few salient facts of the case: The crime of murder was committed in Mexico by Mexicans. The victim was an undercover (and unarmed) DEA agent. The U.S. Department of "Justice" arranged the kidnapping of the suspect from Mexico to the U.S. What the Supreme Court approved of was the prosecution of a foreign suspect for a crime that occured in a foreign land. In doing so, the Court said that the Constitution EXTENDS across borders. If that's not an emanation of a penumbra, the Warren Court is a figment of historical imagination. =============== Reply 40 of Note 1 ================= Board: NEWS BB Topic: WHITE HOUSE/CONGRESS Subject: KISS MY ARSE MR PREZ To: ZHLG17A PHIL ANDERSON Date: 05/13 From: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION Time: 10:02 PM U.S. law doesn't apply in foreign countries unless that government agrees. The Mexican government under Salinas most emphatically opposed this as does Zedillo with his pronouncement on weapons. Quid pro quo. If we can do it, against their wishes, then they can do it against ours. Wait till the Revolution hits in Mexico and the new Government sends its agents here to collect the various aiders and abetters of the corrupt, murderous regime, both Mexican and American. =============== Reply 41 of Note 1 ================= Board: NEWS BB Topic: WHITE HOUSE/CONGRESS Subject: KISS MY ARSE MR PREZ To: KRGK40A CHARLES WALSH Date: 05/13 From: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION Time: 10:29 PM Yeah, what you heard of began on April 19, 1775 and was formalized on July 4, 1776. My teachers told me this was a real good thing. I agree. Do you? =============== Reply 42 of Note 1 ================= Board: NEWS BB Topic: WHITE HOUSE/CONGRESS Subject: KISS MY ARSE MR PREZ To: KRGK40A CHARLES WALSH Date: 05/14 From: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION Time: 8:48 PM Just wait till the economy collapses and the foreign banks start foreclosing on our properties. You'll get to the barricades fast enough. =============== Reply 43 of Note 1 ================= Board: NEWS BB Topic: WHITE HOUSE/CONGRESS Subject: KISS MY ARSE MR PREZ To: ZHLG17A PHIL ANDERSON Date: 05/15 From: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION Time: 9:33 PM True, U.S. law prohibits killing of Americans everywhere. Also true, there is no statute of limitations for murder. So how come the U.S. government doesn't go after Chinese Communists for their murder of U.S. Army Captain John Birch in 1945? =============== Reply 44 of Note 1 ================= Board: NEWS BB Topic: WHITE HOUSE/CONGRESS Subject: KISS MY ARSE MR PREZ To: DJPE65A BEVERLY SPECHT Date: 05/15 From: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION Time: 10:48 PM I DID say "Manchurian Candidate," Bev. Back on April 7, '97 at 3:27 AM. It was then my subject "By His Cajones!" was posted in the In the News Topic. I was going to refer you to it but when I went back to check the date I found it had "disappeared." Backdate it yourself. My other writings are still there but this one is gone. I wonder why? This has never happened to me before. WHY would Prodigy finally censor one of my writings after more than two years on the board? It must have to do with the subject matter. In this posting I speculated that our President had been so thoroughly compromised by the Chinese government via illegal contributions that they had him by his CAJONES. (This is the word the Secretary of State uses for "balls.") Beijing could provide investigators with PROOF of Clinton's felonious activity and bring down his Presidency if he didn't co-operate with China on geo-political matters. I called it the Dragon under Lincoln's Bed. I drew a parallel to former Australian Prime Minister Harold Holt who "disappeared" without a trace while swimming in 1967. It was credibly believed at the time that this man was an agent for China whose cover was blown and so was spirited out of the country with the aid of Red Army scuba divers and a trusty submarine. Now I find my posting gone POOF! down the old memory hole. Should I be concerned or am I paranoid? Will I go poof too? Will I join the ranks of the "disappeared?" (Hey! I'm not even from Latin America!) Did someone cause Prodigy to make the record poof, and if so, who? Keep an eye out for me, please, Bev. If you don't hear from me for awhile DON'T alert the authorities. DO alert the public. Where is Richard Condom when you need him? I'll write a note on this later, probably under this title: CENSOR THIS ! PRODIGY =============== Reply 45 of Note 1 ================= Board: NEWS BB Topic: WHITE HOUSE/CONGRESS Subject: KISS MY ARSE MR PREZ To: ZHLG17A PHIL ANDERSON Date: 05/16 From: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION Time: 10:19 PM Didja see Raquel Welch on Seinfeld last night? Rick (I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by television.)