=============================================================================== Board: NEWS BB Subject: ENGLISH OFFICIALLY Posted: January 01,1996 00:28:46 To: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION From: SHEA WING (DVDZ39A) Richard Gombas this is your consence speaking. I've sent you E-mail and you havent replied. Shame on you. Bulletin ID: EZA960101002846DVDZ39ACHHL71A =============================================================================== Board: NEWS BB Subject: ENGLISH OFFICIALLY Posted: January 01,1996 23:30:38 To: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION From: HAPPETH JONES (XGQQ40A)E) The REAL danger America has is the fashionable trend to be anti-authority which results in anti-Americanism which then leads to governments failing. All countries have rich and powerful people that look out for their own interests. I would rather be oppessed in America than oppressed in another country. To suggest that Americans team up with Mexico to fight a common oppressor is an attempt to allow another country which can't handle its own affairs to then tell us how to correct our problems. IN other words it will bring America down to that level. Happeth Bulletin ID: EZA960101233038XGQQ40ACHHL71A =============================================================================== Board: NEWS BB Subject: ENGLISH OFFICIALLY Posted: January 02,1996 23:20:46 To: HAPPETH JONES (XGQQ40A) From: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION The Real danger America has is the fashionable trend to ferget the principles upon which this country was founded: anti-authority, anti-elitist and pro-democracy. Why would you prefer to be oppressed anywhere, especially America? Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty, and from time to time America has united with other countries to fight a threat such as in World Wars II and III. We need to bring Mexico UP to our level by telling the People there that they have a RIGHT to overthrow their brutal, oppressive and corrupt government and start a new one based on principles of liberty, democracy and free en- terprise. When they rid themselves of the thieves and killers real progress can be made toward a free society of political and economic justice. I'm afraid the U.S. government has ALREADY teamed up with the Mexican government, which "can't handle its own affairs." Ever hear of NAFTA? What We the People, on both sides of the border, need to do is get rid of the tiny minority that is mismanaging both countries. Our dishonest "leaders" bail out their dishonest dictators and our own greed-mongers on Wall Street get saved and the taxpayer is stuck with the tab. Remember what We the People did to our ruling class in 1776 when they tried to force us to pay for their mistakes AND their lavish lifestyles? Revolution has always been an escape hatch and the doorway to a better future for the vast majority of citizens. We proved it beginning in 1776 and We and Mexico will prove it again. Just keep following Pete Wilson's brilliant, Revolutionary idea. Round up the illegals and dump them over the border into a country already rapidly unraveling and sit back and watch the fireworks fly and the Sword of Damocles drop! But for Heaven's sake, BE PREPARED! When the crunch comes it ain't gonna be pretty. The Mexican ruling class's army will massacre civilians to an extent much greater than they've done in the past two years, and they'll try to curry favor in the U.S. by killing American tourists and businessmen and blaming it on rebels. We'll need to have the U.S. Army ready to move in as peacekeepers to protect Americans (like they did in Grenada) and to liberate the Mexican People from the Mexican dictators. If we go in to help the Mexican dictators our "leaders" here will become targets. If we go in to help the Mexican People our Leaders here will be heros. Which side are you on? Bulletin ID: EZA960102232046CHHL71AXGQQ40A =============================================================================== Board: NEWS BB Subject: ENGLISH OFFICIALLY Posted: January 03,1996 23:14:20 To: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION From: HAPPETH JONES (XGQQ40A) It seems to me that you are getting Mexico and America mixed up. If Mexico needs a revolution then that is their business but America does not need a revolution. Also I am tired of the whole world asking America to be their policeman. We need to start taking care of our own in this country. If we stopped being a safety valve for other countrys problems then the oppressed people in the other country would have no choice but to start fighting and solving their own problems. We should never interfere in another country unless it is to our economic or miltary advantage. Happeth Bulletin ID: EZA960103231420XGQQ40ACHHL71A =============================================================================== Board: NEWS BB Subject: ENGLISH OFFICIALLY Posted: January 06,1996 15:23:43 To: ETHEL SALTZ (RMXR16A) From: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION Ethel, Actually the American Southwest was Hispanized long before it was Anglo-sacked. To reachieve greatness we need to be true to the ideals and principles that made us a country in the first place. Our Declaration of Independence can be applied quite well to the 99% of the Mexican People now slaving under an oligarchy that is in itself a wholly owned subsidiary of the Washington/Wall Street Axis. A new Mexican Revolution would simultaneously free the People from the dictators and thieves of BOTH the Mexican and American ruling classes. Bulletin ID: EZA960106152343CHHL71ARMXR16A =============================================================================== Board: NEWS BB Subject: ENGLISH OFFICIALLY Posted: January 06,1996 15:56:20 To: HAPPETH JONES (XGQQ40A) From: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION Happeth, Your saftey valve comment points right to the key to the situation. Since the mid-years of the cold war, the early sixties, we have been terrified of chaos on our southern border. The various Mexican governments over the years have exploited this fear to the advantage of the Mexican ruling class, raking in billions of American aid and "investment" to stave off this nightmare. President Luis Echeveria was especially adept at playing off his friendship with Castro against us. But guess what? The war is OVER. There no longer is a NEED to stave off Revolution, to act as a "saftey valve." The Mexican ruling class WANTS Mexicans to go to America, illegally or otherwise because that relieves the pressure and is a source for hard currency imports. The Mexican government/ruling class NEEDS this outlet to save their own skin and divert the public's attention from their own inability and unwillingness to provide for the needs of the Mexican People. They will NEVER (voluntarily) give up their power and wealth and so they make their problems OUR problems, and hope WE do THEIR dirty work. This explains their recent vicious attack on Governor Wilson and his brilliant idea to foment Revolution in Mexico by expelling the illegals, getting mean to the legals and building a Wilson Wall on the border. We've filled the role of policeman quite well in recent years, Happeth, so we're the logical choice to help liberate Mexico from the dictators and thieves. Plus, as an added advantage, our use of troops for this purpose will signal a crack in the Washington/WallStreet Axis, a good thing for both the Mexican and American Peoples. Bulletin ID: EZA960106155620CHHL71AXGQQ40A =============================================================================== Board: NEWS BB Subject: ENGLISH OFFICIALLY Posted: January 07,1996 09:50:52 To: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION From: ETHEL SALTZ (RMXR16A) So why don't the Hispanics in this country go to Mexico and revolutionize Mexico instead of turning America into Mexico? Let's here it for EFL, English as a First Language, here in USA. Let's hear it for the USA constitution. Come to think of it, maybe Clinton will send troops to Mexico after the Hispanics from this country march on Mexico. I can just see it now. Give me Galileo, Machiavelli, Nietzche, Spinoza any time. Western Thought is wonderful.I read them all in English. Seems you can get any idea in the English language. be ahavah ve shalom, MAC-NIET-SPIN-GAL/GARLAND,TX Bulletin ID: EZA960107095052RMXR16ACHHL71A =============================================================================== Board: NEWS BB Subject: ENGLISH OFFICIALLY Posted: January 07,1996 09:49:30 To: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION From: MARIANNE MUZHAKY (QMFY83A) Rick, What exactly are you proposing???? 1.For the Us to attack and overthrow the Mexican Government? 2.For the people to rise up in both countries and to overthrow the government/ruling class---and become socialist/communists? 3.You think that the rulling classes are responsible for the powerty in Mexico and the illigals comming to this country dc Bulletin ID: EZA960107094930QMFY83ACHHL71A =============================================================================== Board: NEWS BB Subject: ENGLISH OFFICIALLY Posted: January 08,1996 23:24:33 To: MARIANNE MUZHAKY (QMFY83A) From: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION Exactly? Liberty, equality and brotherhood. Don't be silly. The North American future is Jeffersonian Capitalism. Bulletin ID: EZA960108232433CHHL71AQMFY83A =============================================================================== Board: NEWS BB Subject: ENGLISH OFFICIALLY Posted: January 08,1996 23:17:40 To: ETHEL SALTZ (RMXR16A) From: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION "God is dead." - Nietzche "Nietzche is dead." - God Aztec and Inca civilization is dead, courtesy of "Western Thought." When will Montezuma get his revenge? Does the Western World have a monopoly on God? Did God smile upon the Crusades, the Inquisition, the Conquistadors, the slave trade, the Holocaust, and the other "gems" of Western Thought? Bulletin ID: EZA960108231740CHHL71ARMXR16A =============================================================================== Board: NEWS BB Subject: ENGLISH OFFICIALLY Posted: January 09,1996 05:42:15 To: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION From: MARIANNE MUZHAKY (QMFY83A) WHAT IS Jeffersonian Capitalism....expand a little... maybee I am to slow??? Bulletin ID: EZA960109054215QMFY83ACHHL71A =============================================================================== Board: NEWS BB Subject: ENGLISH OFFICIALLY Posted: January 09,1996 08:45:20 To: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION From: ETHEL SALTZ (RMXR16A) Well, Rick, maybe the information highway will change all that. And to think that the information highway is making English even more dominant. There was COBOL, Common Business Oriented Language, which gave directions to the electrons in ENGLISH. Before that there was Claude Shannon's Information Theory (used to be called Communication Theory before pc's) and guess what he wrote the original here in this country in ENGLISH. And I've met people from other countries who think of Shannon as their hero. Now, if any one wants to live in the pre-Western style, just go to CanCun and be a Mayan. They are extremely happy people. There's the Amish in this country and the Mormons. Somehow, they live their quiet lives and accept the fact that they are a special interest group and they don't change the laws to make everyone have to deal with their way of living. They just change the laws to have them let them be. Actually, the Jews, originally, had a monopoly on GOD and even they were influenced by every civilization they encounteved and updated themselves. In fact, when they were successful in convincing their non-Jewish friends that they had a good philosophy, they were kicked out by the threatened aristocracy. Even learn English in elementary school in Israel as a Second Language. Here it's English as a First Language. No such thing as Ugly American, every one else is different. That's how my mom raised me and that's me. be ahavah ve shalom, MAC-NIET-SPIN-GAL/GARLAND,TX Bulletin ID: EZA960109084520RMXR16ACHHL71A =============================================================================== Board: NEWS BB Subject: ENGLISH OFFICIALLY Posted: September 09,1995 16:42:46 To: A JOHNSTON (QKWT75A) From: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION And after we make English the official language should we make Christianity the official religion? And after that should we officially change the level playing field to the slippery slope? Bulletin ID: EZA950909164246CHHL71AQKWT75A =============================================================================== Board: NEWS BB Subject: ENGLISH OFFICIALLY Posted: December 25,199=9 21:19:03 To: ETHEL SALTZ (RMXR16A) From: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION Its not the culture that "doesn't do them any good," its the Mexican ruling class. Get rid of the ruling class you get rid of the rotten apple. When freed of the chains of the rich the poor will rebuild the economy using the lessons learned norte of the border. Kicking them out of the U.S. now will increase the pressure on the cosoupt ruling class and make the explosion come even sooner. The ruling class already knows English, they've prepared themselves well for the exile. Bulletin ID: EZA951225211903CHHL71ARMXR16A =============================================================================== Board: NEWS BB Subject: ENGLISH OFFICIALLY Posted: December 26,1995 00:27:31 To: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION From: MARIANNE MUZHAKY (QMFY83A) RICK, So why don't they vote out the ruling class/government??? I tought that they had free elections??? What is the problem???? Is it that the votes are tampered with??? Bulletin ID: EZA951226002731QMFY83ACHHL71A =============================================================================== Board: NEWS BB Subject: ENGLISH OFFICIALLY Posted: December 26,1995 21:59:16 To: MARIANNE MUZHAKY (QMFY83A) From: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION Marianne, So why don't the Cubans just vote out THEIR ruling class/government? The people with guns, who are willing to use them, in any country, get the government they want. When a ruling class combines guns with massive concentrated political and financial power along with the sponsorhip of the corrupt Washington/Wall Street Axis the votes of the People mean nada. According to both Amnesty International and Freedom House BOTH Cuba and Mexico are unfree. So why do our own corrupt Republicans and Democrats kiss up to Zedildo? Money can make the political prostitutes do anything. Bulletin ID: EZA951226215916CHHL71AQMFY83A =============================================================================== Board: NEWS BB Subject: ENGLISH OFFICIALLY Posted: December 27,1995 22:39:13 To: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION From: STEPHAN SELLIN (DPFA90A) Rick, #9 I agree with you on the issue of prostituting money to the politicians. Now since that's the only way things will be done, our nation headed for doom if nothing is changed. Steve Bulletin ID: EZA951227223913DPFA90ACHHL71A =============================================================================== Board: NEWS BB Subject: ENGLISH OFFICIALLY Posted: December 29,1995 23:20:15 To: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION From: STEPHAN SELLIN (DPFA90A) Rick, You do have a great point. From the politicians looting the national tresuary and putting out tax dollars into "programs" that are useless to a majority of all americans, is a cause for concern. The crooks in DC think they deserve a $100,000 a year salery, well I think the deserve ZERO!! To get back to the subject, in Mexico they have problems much worse then what we see in DC. In fact, the rulling party has been accused of murder by the oppisition. In a country like Mexico, anything is possible.... Steve Bulletin ID: EZA951229232015DPFA90ACHHL71A =============================================================================== Board: NEWS BB Subject: ENGLISH OFFICIALLY Posted: December 29,1995 11:15:49 To: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION From: ETHUH SALTZ (RMXR16A) No argument there. I majored in Latin-American Culture and Civilization and if I didn't toe the party line in my opinions on my tests, then I was marked down. I experimented on this, myself. Graduated in 1950. Nothing's changed since. Then, go one step further, open the Vatican's Library to all research and we'll find it's not limited to USA and Mexico. Don't you wish we could capture all that free solar energy? All we'd have to pay for is the safe process. be ahavah ve shalom, MAC-NIET-SPIN-GAL/GARLAND,TX Bulletin ID: EZA951229111549RMXR16ACHHL71A =============================================================================== Board: NEWS BB Subject: ENGLISH OFFICIALLY Posted: December 29,1995 00:27:31 To: STEPHAN SELLIN (DPFA90A) From: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION The best way to save our nation is to promote Revolution in Mexico. Once the archives are open and the trials begin we will see the complicity of our own ruling class in the depradations of Mexico's. Then we'll use that info as a wedge to pry out of power the bad guys of the Washington/ Wall Street Axis. The ruling classes of both countries are close collaboraters and co-conspirators and when justice is done, so too will they be. Bulletin ID: EZA951229002731CHHL71ADPFA90A =============================================================================== Board: NEWS BB Subject: ENGLISH OFFICIALLY Posted: December 30,1995 15:41:29 To: ETHEL SALTZ (RMXR16A) From: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION Let's not put all our eggs in the solar basket, there are lots of other alternatives, but ALTERNATIVES is the key. Mexico's ruling class went from third-world corruption to Wall Street scale corruption with the oil shocks of the seventies. The rich and powerful have looted Pemex (and thus the Mexican People) with the full knowledge and connivance of the U.S. government, which in turn is a tool of Big Oil. The Church in Mexico, a sturdy bulwark of Liberation Theology, has always been a thorn in the side of the crooks in the "Temple." Bulletin ID: EZA951230154129CHHL71ARMXR16A =============================================================================== Board: NEWS BB Subject: ENGLISH OFFICIALLY Posted: December 30,1995 15:48:44 To: STEPHAN SELLIN (DPFA90A) From: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION Steve, Anything, indeed, is possible when you have so few self- interested parties and individuals with so much wealth and political power to do whatever needs to be done to con-solidate and expand their wealth and power. AnAnthis, of course, comes at the expense of We the People, whether or not "We" are Mexicans or Americans. The ruling classes of both countries try to keep the average Mexican and the average American distrustful of each other so that We won't unite against our common oppressor: Them. Bulletin ID: EZA951230154844CHHL71ADPFA90A =============================================================================== Board: NEWS BB Subject: ENGLISH OFFICIALLY Posted: December 31,1995 02:35:34 To: HAPPETH JONES (XGQQ40A) From: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION Happeth, The average American doesn't KNOW he has an oppressor. This is the rotten fruits of 50 years of Madison Avenue manipulation of our collective National Consciousness on behalf of the Washington/Wall Street Axis which is far more concerned about the prosperity of rich people in other countries than that of our own working People. Ever hear of NAFTA? Our government, which has shirked its major duty to provide for the "greatest good for the greatest number," will FALL, because it has abandoned the American People exchanging new world democracy for old world oligarchy. And the reason they're doing so well is they've learned from the "mistakes" of the communists and the nazis and hired (bribed) some REALLY good public relations goons, to pull the wool (gently) over the public's eyes. The American ruling class will join the other totalitarian regimes on the ash heap of history, sooner rather than later, simply because, as Abraham Lincoln said: "You can fool some of the people all of the time and all of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time." Do you really want to be "some of the people," Happeth? Bulletin ID: EZA951231023534CHHL71AXGQQ40A =============================================================================== Board: NEWS BB Subject: ENGLISH OFFICIALLY Posted: December 31,1995 13:32:20 To: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION From: ETHEL SALTZ (RMXR16A) I saw the whole history of Oil and Rockerfeller on TV and it is mind-boggling. How about the airforce dropping pamphlets in the Islamic countries enticing all women to be equal? Wouldn't that interrupt the whole world oil economy? I still see in my mind the tv interview with an Ethiopian Rabbi (Falashi) who was saved and brought to Israel. First they interviewed one of his elementary school wives. Ten YO girl. She said she loved being in school, instead of being a wife. Then they interviewed that handsome, 26YO, charming Rabbi, "You can't imagine how it was. I WAS KING." So you see, it's a cultural thing, not a religious thing. Bulletin ID: EZA951231133220RMXR16ACHHL71A =============================================================================== Board: NEWS BB Subject: ENGLISH OFFICIALLY Posted: December 31,1995 01:43:12 To: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION From: HAPPETH JONES (XGQQ40A) Rick the average American does not have an oppressor. ' We don't need to unite with another country to bring down our country. Happeth Bulletin ID: EZA951231014312XGQQ40ACHHL71A