=============================================================================== Board: NEWS BB Subject: ROLL CALL Posted: January 07,1996 16:27:06 To: STEVE GOLDING (NSVD53A) From: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION Steve, Check out todays NYTimes Book Review, an article by a NYU Prof on the "Hard Landing" of the airline industry. "Frank Lorenzo, the most hated man in the industry, broke the unions at Continental Airlines by declaring bankruptcy and imposing new wage scales on employees, sometimes half or less of their previous pay. When he bought the unionized Eastern Airlines, he conveniently transfered some of Eastern's most valuable assets to his other airline companies, paying Eastern a fraction of the asset's worth. In the end, Mr. Lorenzo walked away with $30 million despite having performed the business equivalent of a hat trick: he took three separate airline companies into bankruptcy." Stephen D. Solomon Bulletin ID: EZA960107162706CHHL71ANSVD53A =============================================================================== Board: NEWS BB Subject: ROLL CALL Posted: January 15,1996 22:48:49 To: STEVE GOLDING (NSVD53A) From: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION "I cried and cried because I had no shoes... Until I met a man who had no feet." I only mention this cos I myself servived 15 NYC winters... And then I moved up to the Adirondacks. Sorta like out of the frying pan and into the fire, doncha think? Bulletin ID: EZA960115224849CHHL71ANSVD53A =============================================================================== Board: NEWS BB Subject: ROLL CALL Posted: January 16,1996 18:26:40 To: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION From: G SILVERDAHL SR (VAJU98A) From Chesapeake Va. in March'72, to Sunny Florida in one EASY lesson . Bulletin ID: EZA960116182640VAJU98ACHHL71A =============================================================================== Board: NEWS BB Subject: ROLL CALL Posted: January 17,1996 23:23:19 To: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION From: STEVE GOLDING (NSVD53A) Rick, oh yeah. Definitely like outta the ice box and into the freezer! That seems familiar..."I cried and cried because I had no shoes, until I met a man who had no feet." Who is it? Yates? Steve, Still awaiting the fullest possible accounting from the Socialist Republic of Vietnam 1/17/96 10:20PM ET Bulletin ID: EZA960117232319NSVD53ACHHL71A =============================================================================== Board: NEWS BB Subject: ROLL CALL Posted: January 17,1996 17:43:53 To: G SILVERDAHL SR (VAJU98A) From: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION That trip sounds like going from do-do to deep do-do. Bulletin ID: EZA960117174353CHHL71AVAJU98A =============================================================================== Board: NEWS BB Subject: ROLL CALL Posted: January 17,1996 22:02:11 To: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION From: G SILVERDAHL SR (VAJU98A) Noway. When I left up there it was so cold I couldn't hold a hammer or saw in my hands. 1 day later I'm swimming in the Atlantic, gazing at bikini stuffing, and ain't regretted a winter down here. I still go back every now and then, but I choose the season. Bulletin ID: EZA960117220211VAJU98ACHHL71A =============================================================================== Board: NEWS BB Subject: ROLL CALL Posted: January 18,1996 23:04:26 To: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION From: G SILVERDAHL SR (VAJU98A) Whoaaa- just caught that part about the smog . Is it THAT serious out there? Bulletin ID: EZA960118230426VAJU98ACHHL71A =============================================================================== Board: NEWS BB Subject: ROLL CALL Posted: January 18,1996 21:03:54 To: STEVE GOLDING (NSVD53A) From: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION Lots of folks have said this (note40) or similar but I think it sounds best with a W.C. Fields inflection. Bulletin ID: EZA960118210354CHHL71ANSVD53A =============================================================================== Board: NEWS BB Subject: ROLL CALL Posted: January 18,1996 23:03:28 To: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION From: G SILVERDAHL SR (VAJU98A) It's my understanding from relatives living in Concord that California is a paradise. I'm aware of it's desirable weather but I don't feel comfortable with the trade offs at this point in my life. Bulletin ID: EZA960118230328VAJU98ACHHL71A =============================================================================== Board: NEWS BB Subject: ROLL CALL Posted: January 18,1996 21:08:32 To: G SILVERDAHL SR (VAJU98A) From: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION I guess you don't mind sweating like a hog 8 months a year but you must've gotten used to it in Va. Try So. Cal, plenty of warm but no sweat, (unless you count the smog settling on your skin as sweat.) Bulletin ID: EZA960118210832CHHL71AVAJU98A =============================================================================== Board: NEWS BB Subject: ROLL CALL Posted: January 19,1996 23:42:39 To: CHARLES GILPIN (FDGR26A) From: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION Hoover's dead hand still haunts the Federal "justice" system. He insisted on personally approving most new agents (tho probably not sexually) and all promotions. The agents he elevated invariably were Hoover clones and brown-nosers and many of those are now in very high positions or have retired after elevating yet more clones. Evil dies slowly. Remember what Dole said about Reagan, Ford and Nixon? They're the three monkeys: Hear no evil, see no evil and Evil. Bulletin ID: EZA960119234239CHHL71AFDGR26A =============================================================================== Board: NEWS BB Subject: ROLL CALL Posted: January 19,1996 23:27:38 To: G SILVERDAHL SR (VAJU98A) From: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION Oh, ok, lets compromise: Hawaii! If someone ever does a remake of the Mamas and Papas song it will have to go: All the leaves are brown And the sky is too... Its really that bad in the LA area much of the year, cough cough, but the rest of the Southland (excepting Riverside- San Berdoo, Orange County and Sad Niego) is fine. Well, that doesn't leave much, I guess, but we can still DREAM can't we? Bulletin ID: EZA960119232738CHHL71AVAJU98A =============================================================================== Board: NEWS BB Subject: ROLL CALL Posted: January 20,1996 19:42:04 To: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION From: G SILVERDAHL SR (VAJU98A) I could do Hawaii... yeah that has to THE spot. Unfortunately on my meager income I would have to be on the smallest of the islands . Bulletin ID: EZA960120194204VAJU98ACHHL71A =============================================================================== Board: NEWS BB Subject: ROLL CALL Posted: January 20,1996 01:47:11 To: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION From: STEVE GOLDING (NSVD53A) Definitely sounds good with ole WC saying it HAGO Steve, Still awaiting the fullest possible accounting from the Socialist Republic of Vietnam 1/20/96 1:05AM ET Bulletin ID: EZA960120014711NSVD53ACHHL71A =============================================================================== Board: NEWS BB Subject: ROLL CALL Posted: January 21,1996 23:42:23 To: CHARLES GILPIN (FDGR26A) From: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION Howard Metzenbaum's term petered out before he was able to pass his bill to strip that name from the building. I don't know if any of the new Republican majority has re-introduced it but you'd think Chenoweth, Stockman, Barr et al would pick up the ball and if they were smart team up with some good old fashioned civil liberties liberals and get the good deed done. BUT Hoover's famous secret files turned up "missing" so who knows who's blackmailing whom, and with the tremendous in- crease in electronic gadgets these past 24 years, the FBI's disks must be bulging so don't hold your breath awaiting some politician to take a stand against the goon squad. Bulletin ID: EZA960121234223CHHL71AFDGR26A =============================================================================== Board: NEWS BB Subject: ROLL CALL Posted: January 21,1996 23:46:57 To: G SILVERDAHL SR (VAJU98A) From: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION Didn't you know you don't need an income to enjoy Hawaii? You can live naked on the beach eating the fruit that falls from the trees! Bulletin ID: EZA960121234657CHHL71AVAJU98A =============================================================================== Board: NEWS BB Subject: ROLL CALL Posted: January 21,1996 01:14:16 To: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION From: CHARLES GILPIN (FDGR26A) When he was blackmailing all of our top government officials, he was blackmailing us all. The thing that offends the most is that building named after him. I've have seen a lot of buildings, bridges and highways named after politicians who should have been in jail, but this is the worst. What kind of example does that set for young people? Bulletin ID: EZA960121011416FDGR26ACHHL71A =============================================================================== Board: NEWS BB Subject: ROLL CALL Posted: January 22,1996 23:55:47 To: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION From: G SILVERDAHL SR (VAJU98A) Well now thats a life-long fantasy of mine. Wonder how it's gone unnoticed all these years by "main landers?" Bulletin ID: EZA960122235547VAJU98ACHHL71A- =============================================================================== Board: NEWS BB Subject: ROLL CALL Posted: December 26,1995 22:55:57 To: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION From: WILLIAM SIMPSON (AWHJ15B) Rick: Steve is quite correct, it was the unions that heaped up the economic losses that lead to their demise. Any study of what was going on in that industry at the time, will show you quite clearly, that in this case, a union destroyed the job! Matter of fact, take a good solid look at the AFL/CIO, they can hardly be really classed as being on the "worker's" side. They talk funny when addressing the audience of members, I know, I have been there. Somehow, the leadership still tends to think of blue collar as liking dirty words and jokes! The leader of the union I was a part of at the time, was in prison for embezzlement of union pension funds big time. And at their last meeting, it was clear that that leadership was squarely in the bank of the corporation I was working for. Just because it is called a "union" don't mean that it is automatically a good thing for the worker. Sometimes they are worse than the worst employer! Bulletin ID: EZA951226225557AWHJ15BCHHL71A =============================================================================== Board: NEWS BB Subject: ROLL CALL Posted: December 26,1995 22:10:05 To: STEVE GOLDING (NSVD53A) From: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION Steve, I for one have been wwwrwcking my brain for weeks trying to figure out your statement that Eastern Airlines' demise was caused by unions! But my brain don't work no more, apparently. All it flashes up with is OZNEROL KNARF. It must be my sub-conscious tell- ing me pay NO attention to the man behind the curtain. Are you SURE it was the unions and not some greedy corporate raider? Bulletin ID: EZA951226221005CHHL71ANSVD53A =============================================================================== Board: NEWS BB Subject: ROLL CALL Posted: December 27,1995 23:28:20 To: REVOLUTIONSOLUTION From: STEVE GOLDING (NSVD53A) Rick, the unions struck Eastern at the very time they were gearing up to stave off a takeover attempt by Sam something (a buddy of Carl Ichan's who pulled the same maneuver on TWA) and between fighting the Union and fighting off the takeover Eastern Airlines folded. Pan American, OTOH, was strictly a striking union deal that brought them down. Have a good New Year. Steve, Still awaiting the fullest possible accounting from the Socialist Republic of Vietnam 12/27/95 9:33PM ET Bulletin ID: EZA951227232820NSVD53ACHHL71A